Buy this 686, and it may be the last upland gun you ever need. somewhere at Benelli must have thought what they were working on made Benelli 828u or Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I? Let us know what you think in the comments section! 1250 fps load, he needed his Benelli Ethos to lighter O/U." The good news, for the American consumer anyway, has been the crash of the Euro and the Japanese Yen vs. the dollar. You may also enjoy our Best Shotgun Accessories & Top Affordable Shotguns. I shot it weekly up to around 2000 rounds. and has the same “progressive comfort” plastic springy stock Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:20 pm *Proud to be a*: Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:14 am Posts: 142 Location: Liberty Hill, Texas You made a good choice. Benelli is responsible for some of the best-selling shotguns on the market thanks to their innovative designs. I'm looking to purchase a shotgun for mostly clay and some occasional bird hunting. var po = document.createElement('script'); po.type = 'text/javascript'; po.async = true; I am a big fan of Benelli and I own a Benelli M1 super 90 (8-shot) and a Benelli M2 Practical (10 shot), used for Target Shotgun and Clays, so would like to add the Benelli O/U to the fold. Beretta has been family owned and operated since the early 16th century. of the other "features" are bogus: so-called "free-floated" var a2a_config = a2a_config || {}; is a big, obvious advance to the rear from several quite enjoyable, thoroughly are even less than that: $1869 MSRP for a 12 gauge Cynergy Field, 20, A Beretta Silver Pigeon can currently be had for under $2000, for example. remotely compare to a 725 Citori, no alloy receiver O/U balances the way Even while producing some of the best semi-auto and pump scatterguns, the immortal company has never forsaken their role in over under shotgun development. to please no one. ⢠Model: Mossberg Silver Reserve II ⢠Caliber: 12, 20 Gauge ⢠Capacity: 2 ⢠Finish: Matte Blued ⢠Barrel Length: 26″, 28â ⢠Overall Length: 43â, 45â ⢠Weight: 7, 7.5 lbs. and a good value. Unfortunately, this is a gross misconception that needs to be rectified. Thanks for the info. the basic stock design: at less money than the 828U, you can get adjustable I was looking for something more fitting for that than my Stoeger field O/U so I purchased a Stoeger Competition. At the heart of the Silver Pigeon I Sporting is the legendary 686 action, a long-standing favorite among competition shooters and hunters. I personally use and appreciate my M2 and Has this slowed you down at all when shooting trap/skeet? Benelli also makes a 3-1/2″ gun (Super Black Eagle), which Beretta doesn’t in the 391. I switched to the other barrel with the exact same result. I made it through the first 25 eventually but the majority of my shots required two tries to get the shell to fire and it did not matter which barrel I tried to use. thing. stock thing," it can only help so much. Beretta is one of the finest gun makers in the world and has been at it … overpriced, ugly gun at that. Some The Browning the Citori has been the best selling for a while now if that’s what you mean, Your email address will not be published. None of Indeed. It also has allegedly interchangeable ribs that you can't buy, along with If you are looking for a high-end over-under shotgun, this Beretta might just be the firearm for you. part where Benelli claims that this shotgun is built "on imagination." one at all, much less overpay for an alloy O/U that is so obviously cheap Benelli 828U retails for $2499.99 in black anodized aluminum, $2999.99 And with its select-walnut stock and tasteful scroll engraving, the Silver Pigeon I Sporting won’t fail to turn heads at the range, also thanks to its unmistakeable Beretta looks. a lot less ugly included as a bonus. ⢠Sights: Ivory Front â Mid-Bead ⢠MSRP: $2,149.99-$2,249.99. A 6.5 - 6.6 lb. I took it back to the trap range and it performed only slightly better. The only claim with actual merit is the In fact, Browning is arguably the most influential inventor in the firearms community to ever live. Over Under shotguns are considered to be out of style nowadays. Archived. I would say to shoot that first 100 rounds I had to pull the trigger 160 to 170 times. this case, some of the shameless bluster let loose by the Benelli marketing So can a 725 Citori Field and even the 725 Citori Field Feather models are under $2100. I have narrowed it down to the Beretta 391 or the Benelli montefeltro. But then it should, it's a more expensive gun. It fit me okay and as a result, I shot it okay. I’ve been looking at the Stoegers because they are inexpensive, but what I’ve been reading online matches what you wrote: Lots of quality control problems. Which shotgun are you referring to? By any conventional and reasonable standards, both the 725 Citori a2a_config.linkurl = "http://randywakeman.com"; Benelli Fast Five: Most Influential Firearm Inventors. Their diverse collection of scatterguns includes many affordable favorites, but I canât help but love their over under Silver Pigeon. Nicely scaled to that gauge, & light to carry all day long…. to change. (function() { Post subject: Re: Benelli 828U or Beretta Silver Pigeon. The Add or remove them to move the gun’s center of balance fore or aft. Beretta would surely like to jack the price on their 686 models, but they cannot. Practising clay ð¦ð¦ð¦ #huntress #shotgun #berettasilverpigeon, A post shared by Viktoria the Huntress (@viktoria_goes_hunting) on Jul 15, 2018 at 11:28am PDT. After trying other O/U shotguns my daughters preference was the 828u so we've one on order in black. The Citori 725 is particularly impressive for hunters but can also be seen around the world in shooting competitions. It allows really annoying, Benelli 828U: design of the test gun In terms of its construction, there is no difference between the new Benelli over/under and the familiar models from the competitors. the Beretta 686. Beretta Silver Pigeon. 34” unsingle with adjustable rib and 32” over under. 1150 fps load, he needed I have no faith in a gun that won’t shoot and have not attempted to shoot it since getting it back from Stoeger. might be reading this and wonder if Benelli ran over my dog or something. I should note that the Silver Reserve is noticeably cheaper than these other models but is still something to behold. Keep in mind that the whole point of them was to give shooters a luxury shotgun for an affordable price, but that vision quickly diminished. Lengthened forcing cones team with included Triple Threat ® chokes to produce tighter patterns over longer ranges. I’ve been shooting in a weekly trap league for about 7 years and wanted a dedicated trap gun. Another guy on our team shoots a Maverick pump and has to have at least 8000 rounds through it with no issues. Love the Drake. How do these 5 compare to the Ruger Red Label? So can a 725 Citori Field and even the 725 Citori Field Feather models For starters, youâll notice its stunning nickel-plated aluminum receiver which blends beautifully with the checkered grip. You can watch that happen yourself Benelli's patented steel locking system eliminates wear and tear on the receiver and hinge that cause traditional O/U's to fail. for the carbon-fiber rib is sitting on top of the barrels ostensibly to it. Beretta stackbarrels out there? times on the 828U examples I was shooting. Somebody, Mossberg is one of the most famous names in modern shotgun manufacturing and theyâre not going anywhere any time soon. and have most all of the gauges and configurations already completely The company started as a motorcycle company, and in 1967 launched the firearms business. var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(po, s); At the mention of Stoeger you lost all credibility with me. That being said, letâs get down to business and see what over under shotguns American Gunivores are loving this year. Exclusively designed for the Sporting and Compak disciplines. Your email address will not be published. 12 ga over/under 2 rounds 30 barrel ... benelli 828u $2,099.99. many options for pheasant-hunting (as used in the 828U ads) for lighter This over under is a great choice for anyone looking to boost their fowl hunting without breaking the bank. Oddly enough, their shotguns have won more international shooting competitions than any other brand in the industry. department is insulting. I then found “The Grand” from Stoeger. ⢠Model: Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I ⢠Caliber: .410 Bore, 12 Gauge, 20 Gauge, 28 Gauge ⢠Capacity: 2 ⢠Finish: High Polish Blue, Walnut Stock ⢠Barrel Length: 26″, 28″, 30″ ⢠Overall Length: 44″, 46″, 48″ ⢠Weight: 6.3 â 7 lbs. These enhancements and more make the 828U Sport a standout among sporting over/under shotguns. several less costly, far more refined models: not the least of which is It was their least expensive O/U in 12 ga. with a 28″ barrel. Benelli is owned by the Beretta Holding Group, as are Beretta, Franchi, Stoeger, and other brands. Benelli M2 20 gauge, . Look at any reviews on line and see if you can find anything positive. in a hunting lifetime no one is likely to wear out a Citori or a 686. This target shotgun has a steel frame instead of the hunting gun's aluminum and has included many specialized features. For a 1 oz. My “The Grand” being shown up by a Maverick was a little embarrassing. high recoil and annoyingly violent gun movement, topped off with a nosebleed ejectors," which is what: Italian for "weak springs," perhaps? price despite its very cheap build cost, means that it is product condemned and the Silver Pigeons are far, far better-looking guns as well. The Browning is the better gun, in many ways. Fabarms models that are all at similar to significantly lower price points The shop people suggest that the Benelli is more reliable. Perhaps this is good news for owners of all those really dangerous, unreliable Just what is supposedly floated, and why? Enjoy the benefits of a superb 828U over/under optimized for fast handling and accuracy. supposedly interchangeable barrels that you can't buy, either. ⢠Sights: Fiber-Optic Front ⢠MSRP: $2,699.99. you can see in the video. I currently use a Browning A5 (125th anniversary model) which I shoot well with. I'm looking to purchase a shotgun for mostly clay and some occasional bird hunting. covered. Mossberg has become a staple among tactical shotgun owners and has even made its way into global law enforcement and militaries. Beretta’s 686 Silver Pigeon I hunting shotgun offers the aesthetics and materials of the premium over-under. A 686 Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 Sporting and a Browning 725 Sporting, both with 32" barrels. ⢠Model: Stoeger Condor Field ⢠Caliber: .410 Bore, 12 Gauge, 20 Gauge, 28 Gauge ⢠Capacity: 2 ⢠Finish: Blued ⢠Barrel Length: 26″, 28â ⢠Overall Length: 42â ⢠Weight: 6 lbs. At its heart, it has the best-in-class 686 action, which is compact and low-profile while being extremely strong. The No It happens right? The Affinity Adding As you look through Beretta's catalog, you'll see over-and-under, side-by-side, and semi-automatic shotguns to cover everything from upland hunting to clay target shooting, to waterfowl hunting. ⢠Model: Browning Citori 725 ⢠Caliber: .410 Bore, 12 Gauge, 20 Gauge, 28 Gauge ⢠Capacity: 2 ⢠Finish: High Polish Blue, Silver Nitride Receiver ⢠Barrel Length: 26″, 28″, 30″, 32″ ⢠Overall Length: 45.75â ⢠Weight: 6.3 â 7.5 lbs. Although they may not feature the same quality engravings as some of these other guns, they are still remarkably attractive and elegant. And I just picked up the Beretta used 687 Silver Pigeon III Joel Etchen special. Dear Mr. Buck, I am interested in purchasing a semi-auto shotgun. ⢠Sights: Front Bead ⢠MSRP: $2,350, $2,400, $3,675. A Benelli 828U will run you from $2,499 to $2,999 MSRP, depending on the model and options you choose. Additionally, many of these brands are acknowledging that these are niche guns and have therefore been incorporating gorgeous designs and engravings. Some might say I'm easily baffled (okay, they might Hi Gary, thanks for reaching out. ⢠Sights: Front Bead ⢠MSRP: $499. A few others on the team shoot Browning BT99s. A carbon-fibre rib sits atop the 30in barrels, and a unique, patented steel locking system has been developed by Benelli’s engineers to reduce wear and tear on the action. "new," it hardly rises to the level of any advancement over Benelli 828U Sport RRP £3,545. Hi Roger, thanks for reaching out. Ironically, they function pretty well. The shims are of very little consolation, for they won't help Shotgun Report: Benelli 828U Shotguns & Ammo Shotgun Report: Benelli 828U Steve Gash - August 23, 2019 ... Beretta's Forever Over/Under: The 686 Silver Pigeon I Shotguns & Ammo Beretta's Forever Over/Under: The 686 Silver Pigeon I Nick Sisley - May 01, 2019. Violins won't help this one, although the only violin on the video as well. as well. This. that: it doesn't work as well as just selecting the proper durometer of . Even adding weight to the forearm makes little sense, That’s the last thing I want with an over-under. The Benelli 828U is at least a major disappointment, if not a horrible I have both. The slightly shorter length of pull and 24-inch barrels promote control and speed. The Beretta 690 is new and in the minds of many, a bit overcomplicated and not as desirable as the older 682. not, and have for many years. Hehehe. What is the best barrel length for hunting in 28 gauge shotgun. It ⢠Sights: Front Bead ⢠MSRP: As Low As $720. I’d take a CZ-USA Drake over the stoeger and i was honestly a little suprised it wasnt on the list. at significantly less dollars . That puts the new Benelli into direct competition with the Browning 725, but also with the Beretta 690 models or the Silver Pigeon. I purchased my first Stoeger used. Required fields are marked *. Only 12 gauge 26 inch and 28 inch barrel You have no doubt heard it before, but standard, reasonable quality O/U shotguns start with the Beretta 686 and the standard Browning Citori. Ditto. to steel. Benelli 828u or Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I? In fact, Stoeger is under the Beretta Holding Group along with big names like Benelli and Franchi. people don't like about shotguns, all rolled into just one gun, a severely I have to admit that I kinda like two empty smokin’ shell casings flying back out of the gun when I crack it open. talk of "durability" is a bit silly (okay, really goofy), for ⢠Model: Benelli 828U ⢠Caliber: 12 Gauge ⢠Capacity: 2 ⢠Finish: Satin Blued / Nickel Plated ⢠Barrel Length: 26″, 28″, 30″ ⢠Overall Length: 42.5â, 43.25â, 45.25â, 47.25â ⢠Weight: 6.5 â 6.7 lbs. I will use this gun about 80% clays and 20% upland hunting.… How are you going to add weight where it needs shave weight. For the 1-1/8 oz. Stoeger has slowly become some of the most popular hunting shotguns on the market and for good reason. 32” over under with the X Trap barrels. These powerful shooters are excellent for all kinds of shooting, including trap and hunting. I've seen in the last few years. I borrowed another gun for the handicap round. Of course not, for Benelli's get more favorable assessments from me than According to Benelli, availability is July, 2015. In 2017, Benelli celebrated its 50th Anniversary. The 828U's weak, problematic hull ejection, vulgar aesthetics, If so I’d be interested in hearing about it. this makes much sense, or any sense. Silver Pigeon. . my Vinci, and the Vinci is hardly a traditional-looking shotgun. Then the firing pin broke. 28 gauge, and .410 at $1939. I appreciate you taking the time to do your review but I have to strongly disagree with you on Stoeger. some type of sense. Wait, where are the pics of hot Instagram chicks holding these O/U’s? Benelli’s headquarters is located in Urbina, Italy. are not only far more desirable guns, they are significantly less money Browning has just revamped the Cynergy line and they are even less than that: $1869 MSRP for a 12 gauge Cynergy Field, 20, 28 gauge, and .410 at $1939. I later sold it. Both the Estate and the AA’s had issues. While they manufacture plenty of excellent pump-action and semi-auto scatterguns, their over under shotguns are something else. The The Although the Stoeger is marketed for significantly less than these other shotguns, it still features some of the same high-end qualities and components. . comb O/U models. Benelli claims a "stronger, lighter, safer, the weight he added to make his Benelli Ethos comfortably shootable with models are offered. The first night I went to shoot it I get click but no bang. 44. I have no idea why anyone would want as is a good example as well, manufactured by Benelli, both a well-made gun Unacceptable in my opinion. Beretta is one of the finest gun makers in the world and has been at it for several centuries. These old-fashioned scatterguns are often viewed as traditional and many believe they simply canât compare to modern semi-auto or pump-action models. I thought maybe I selected the wrong trigger so I double checked that and tried firing it again once more got click. For models and brands not listed, please call for assistance selecting a sight. The family-owned company has been pumping out highly-rated long guns for years, most notably their Model 500. Receiver choices are black adonized, or engraved nickel. Silver Pigeon I: Best Price-Quality Value in an Over-Under Shotgun. I own three Stoeger shotguns and of course can only share my experiences. 12 gauge is going to kick with heavy field loads and there is no way around for the nickel finished version. Roger, Sam is spot on. While it has no selective trigger it is the only Stoeger that has not failed me. Added to that you have the 725 Citori, the Cynergy, and Competitive with the Beretta 686/687/690 and also the 725 Citori as a field gun would be the Fabarm Elos. The hull ejection is anemic compared to several other weight is problematic as well, even if you did like the 828U for whatever barrels that are attached at the monoblock, the muzzle, with a forearm By using physics to their advantage, Benelli shotguns offer less perceived recoil, faster reloading, and enhanced reliability. will be a remarkably tragic sales disaster. including Beretta's own 680 series So, if you want a shotgun capable of pulling double duty, this is a fantastic option. Could you comment on both guns and their differences. softer 1 ounce loads than I'd ever hunt with. Several weeks ago, I went to a large dealer in my area and held/swung several over under offerings from Beretta, Browning and I think Benelli. other choices commonly available, that cost a lot less money and have The Red Labelâs price put it in direct competition with seemingly better choices from Browning & Beretta. The Italian manufacturer is famous for their handguns but has begun making a stand in the shotgun market too. incomprehensible reason. Some of the guys on the team like to shoot sporting clays now and then. In truth, these shotguns are the epitome of tradition reimagined with modern adaptations. weigh a little over 7.5 lbs. So I sent it in and Stoeger fixed under their warranty. far as I'm concerned, the 828U is Benelli's first truly big mistake and The Browning Citori has been widely acclaimed as one of the top overall sporting shotguns on the market. I have done quite a bit of Stoeger searching on line and in my searches it has been rare to find a favorable review. I did. Posted by 1 year ago. The guns in this segment will be built to capture a set of specifications and capabilities that fit well with the field hunter; generally, there will be a larger range of gauges within a model product portfolio. It’s offered with 26-, 28- and 30-inch barrels at a full retail price of $3,000 for the engraved nickel-plated receiver model and $2,500 for the black anodized receiver model. All Rights Reserved. embarrassment. Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon I, Over/Under, 20Ga, 26" Barrels, Floral Engraving, Silver Receiver, Oil Finished Wood Stock, 5 Choke Tubes - F,IM,M,IC,C, Optima Choke HP … are under $2100. have a point) but the 828U is a close to a manufacturing crime as Benelli engineers created an innovative adjustment balance system using small weights in the buttstock. I read that it only has living extractors, not ejectors. Excellent shotgun for the money. attached to them. Built around Beretta’s famous 686 action, the Silver Pigeon I Sporting Model is an excellent budget over/under 12 gauge. I do love my Red Label 28 gauge. which I use heavily) or several 20 gauge gas autos. Additionally, itâs hard not to love the Progressive Comfort System and Steel Locking System which provide shooters with a consistent, comfortable, and dependable shooting experience. When you get a good one, they are okay. Also claimed is a "significant increase in reliability." Although there are plenty of excellent options to choose from, I decided to stick with shotguns as close to $2,000 or less. Better balance, better triggers, better fit and finish, etc. Bringing You Honest, Reliable, and Engaging Firearm News and Reviews. Their new Beretta Xtrema is a 3-1/2″, but it’s an entirely different action than the 391 and I’ve not reviewed one yet. successful shotguns available today at significantly less dollars. Lithe, purposeful and menacing in black, the 828U Sport looks like it’s spoiling for a fight straight out of the box. Beretta - 686 Silver Pigeon I; Browning Citori 725 Trap; CZ All-American; Benelli 828U Sport; Hunting specific over and under shotguns. of slimmer, trimmer, lighter 20 gauge O/Us to consider as well. I assume it will fire and will find out soon when I’m away from where it will embarrass me. most would play in this case is the world's smallest. Not a huge issue but was still quite disappointing considering no more rounds that had been shot through it. Benelli 828U Sport Over/Under Shotgun Review Benelli has added a competition version of its 828U over/under. loads . })(); As po.src = 'https://apis.google.com/js/plusone.js'; View attachment 1653147 The Beretta View attachment 1653143 The SKB View attachment 1653145 My two guns: Used Japanese SKB GC7 combo. The 686 Silver Pigeon I hunting shotgun has all the functional features of our premium over-unders at a particularly attractive price. At less than 6.5 lbs., this gun is a joy to carry all day. scratched aluminum, high recoil, no center rib on the barrels: it is quite I am also keen to read opinions on the Benelli 828U for use as a clay gun. I brought the Stoeger Competition home and thoroughly cleaned and oiled it. Does Ruger still make their O/U? That is just about the only explanation. There are all kinds The Ethos / 828U "progressive comfort" pad is hardly The shotgun currently only comes 12 gauge. Benelli’s 828U is more expensive than a lot of over-and-unders, but it’s also a whole lot more affordable than many of the highly decorated imports that are available. In it, the receiver? Browning has just revamped the Cynergy line and they his Ethos to weigh just under 8 lbs. A balanced shotgun is essential for consistent performance. Sam is an avid firearms enthusiast who loves sharing his knowledge and experience with fellow gunivores. Reasonable quality O/U shotguns are a better value today than ever before. I want reliability above all else, otherwise I’ll just get a cheap Stoeger semi-auto. There was a very light dimple on the primer. matter what you do with the addition of a cheap plastic "springy Copyright John Browning began his famous brand nearly 150 years ago and they have been the epitome of excellence ever since. The Silver Pigeon is just heavy enough to be a great option for skeet shooting yet light enough to be an excellent choice for select hunting. Anything above this figure really belongs in a league of its own. While he was a pivotal figure for firearms in general, he was an especially prominent shotgun designer. 12 gauge single shot beretta blaser ... beretta 686 silver pigeon i $1,999.00. guns that are far more comfortable to shoot (a 6 lb. The heart of Benelli's Steel Locking System is a solid steel breech block that locks directly to the monoblock, containing all pressure from the shotshell and preventing its transfer to the receiver and hinge pins. The Browning Arms Company is an iconic American classic. Natural Pointability, Swing. excessive, face-scraping stock movement even with 1 oz. I looked at is as a BT99 knockoff. The Stoeger Condor lineup is filled with impressive firearms, but I happen to love the field model. Benelli also included their QuadraFit Module shim system to enable shooters to easily adjust the cast and drop of the stock to over three dozen positions. If weight really is a factor (I appreciate that), you have
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